10:57pm:
I'm calling this one for McCain. Goodnight.
I'll be curious to see if the Ayers/Acorn stuff actually sticks. I would guess no, based on the Clinton experience.
10:47pm:
NBC: Williams asks Clinton how she felt sitting there -- what a LaME softball question. He grilled Romney like a burger over coals, and suddenly goes soft on Hillary.
Hillary tosses around platitudes about closing the book on Bush.
Williams asks about one-party rule and worries about that.
Hillary references 1993 -- says they had to repair the damage then and now (what a load of bull). More crap about gridlock. Americans yearning for decisions.
Williams asks about Palin: Hillary gives the same answer as Obama did. Avoids ripping Sarah. Says Obama-Biden ticket -- "No comparison."
Brings up 401k, jobs ... offering Obama as the answer, the savior, the messiah, 'da man, etc., etc..
Williams thanks Hillary and subliminally promises to vote for her in two years.
ABC: Stepanopolous says McCain rallied Republican voters. Torie Clark Rep Analyst says Obama ground game is too strong. Stepanopolous says Obama's money is too much for McCain.
I thought rich politicians were EVIL. I always heard how Republicans had more money in the 1980's and 1990's and how EVIL they were for spending more than the poor Democrats.
George Will -- "Too late!" I agree that McCain should have been against the bailout bill. Debates are bad occasions to change campaign.
Stepanopoulos defends McCain's decision b/c McCain would have been blamed for bringing bill down and economy down.
Donna Brazile -- do Democrats really think she helps their cause? She's so clearly partisan it's ridiculous!
Looks like the network anchors are waiting for the polling data -- they're not willing to call the debate one way or the other without the polls.
10:31pm:
Charlie Gibson: "Third time's the charm."
Brokaw: "They turned their backs on each other."
Both talked about Joe the Plumber -- Brokaw declared Joe the winner.
Brokaw: McCain MOCKED Obama.
Sawyer: McCain had a "Battlecry." Obama stuck to issues.
Gibson: McCain failed to make contrast on experience at end.
Stepanapolous: Tactical error bringing up Bill Ayers. Mistake in the debate. (So far, the MSM has not repudiated what McCain said).
Gibson: McCain got ANGRY about John Lewis. Took it PERSONAL. EVIL.
Sawyer: DEFENDS (!) Obama ripping McCain for "Hurt feelings." WOW.
If I get compared to a segregationist ... I'd have to be DEAD to not show passionate disagreements!
Couric: Asking her focus group about McCain taking the gloves off.
CBS shows clip of Obama punting foreign policy to Biden and Luger. McCain talking about Acorn and Ayers. "Facts are facts. Records are records."
Couric asking if this is important? One brother saying Obama didn't look presidential in his response. Brother leaning towards McCain.
White dude with glasses was impressed with McCain, cutting subsidies for Ethanol.
NBC focus group: 4 ind, 1 dem, 1 rep.
1 person thought McCain stronger on Economy; 3 thought Obama stronger on Economy. 2 undecided.
ABC: Playing "I'm not President Bush." Stepanopoulos RIPS McCain for not using it in the first debate. WHO CARES? Stepanopoulos is upset that he said it!
ABC Fact Check: McCain said Joe's last name wrong. William Ayers living room -- campaign was not launched out of living room, but "There were several coffees held that summer. One was held at William Ayers." DAMN. IT'S TRUE.
Obama had more associations with Acorn than he admited to in debate.
I think the MSM will get the facts out tonight, and then cover it up over the next three weeks ... apologize for Obama the way only a sick loyalist can.
NBC: Mitt Romney interviewed by Brian Williams.
Williams pitching that Virginia is going for Obama and 19 days left.
Romney predicting bounce, and turnaround.
NBC panel -- three out of six people switched to McCain!
Romney -- Obama having to explain abortion, spending on campaign ... game-changer for McCain.
William -- battle for soul of McCain?
Romney -- no. Ebb and flow of campaign. He brings it back to McCain positively. Rips Obama for being in extreme wing of Democrat party. Brings up Robin Hood Obama. Brings up Vouchers. Obama -- "Smooth. Quick. But left wanting. Out of the mainstream."
10:27pm:
McCain calls discussion with Obama "Healthy." Yeah, right. Poison is more like it.
Blah, blah, blah. Trying to look into that camera. At least he's making the effort, but he keeps tripping over words. He's going for the win, entering an uncomfortable space.
Long line of McCains ... sheesh. Nobody wants to hear about that, after Bush Sr. and Jr.
Obama thanks McCain and Bob both for moderating. Obama successfully debated himself and won.
Same failed politics line ... change line ...
Whoa -- I didn't invite you. You're on my TV. Let's keep this relationship platonic, buddy.
Economy of future. Lifting wages, as opposed to weights.
Bringing weights to White House ... something like that....
Convinced we can do it (pump us up) ... tirelessly ...
Scheffer -- "Go vote now. It'll make you feel big and strong."
Great job moderating.
And now ... the pun'dits!
10:23pm:
McCain rips Obama for not paying attention to D.C. voucher system.
McCain wants to reform stuff, and rips Democrats for defending programs that don't work.
McCain promises to cure Autism -- damn. He's going for that Messianic Hope vote. Good for him.
McCain -- vouchers are proven system. Yay!
Obama -- uh, oh. He's about to rip vouchers. D.C. school system sucks. G. loves McCain's smile when disagreeing with Obama. Rips McCains plan.
McCain rips Obama, "Because we don't have enough vouchers, even though it's working, we shouldn't use it? I got it." McCain seems more relaxed.
10:15pm: Scheffer asks question about education. Spend more than everybody and trail most countries. What do they intend to do about it?
Obama -- hire William Ayers. Just kidding. Hahaha.
Need more money (?). Invest (?). Huge benefits (?).
Army of new teachers, with General Ayers leading them into battle. Just kidding. Bwahaha.
People take on debt to go into college? Gee, what a shock.
$4,000 tuition credit, in exchange for service. Well, that covers a semester or two, barely. I guess Obama wants to give people another option besides the National Guard.
McCain -- believes in choice and competition for schools. I agree. Charter Schools, vouchers ... enough politics on this subject already. Give parents choice!
"Throwing money at the problem is not the answer." G. just said, "Sure it is. Throw some money this way!" She was kidding. Hahaha.
McCain offering student loan program that already exists. Yikes.
Obama -- Tradition of multiple something or other in schools. Local schools? What did he say?
"Bush left the money behind for No Child Left Behind." I guess that's how the Dems get around the Kennedy connection to that program.
Obama agrees with McCain about Charter Schools. Yay! When he gets elected, I can at least know my kids will have options.
Disagrees with McCain on vouchers. Boo! Oh, well. The voucher system would probably be too complicated anyway.
Rips McCain for calling kids "Interest groups." Ouch. Another great zinger by Obama.
10:06pm:
McCain opposes litmus test. LaME answer. Using doublespeak. Loser argument.
Obama agrees with McCain about litmus test -- I guess since McCain was LaME first, it doesn't hurt to follow him down the LaME road!
"Fairness and justice." Amen, brother. Justice!
A women named Louie Ledbetter -- was that a Pearl Jam song? Supreme Court was EVIL in this case, according to the big O. Woman treated unFAIRly. Justice!
McCain -- now we're changing the culture of America? Who wouldn't show compassion to a woman?
McCain attacks Obama on abortions -- Obama is EVIL late-term abortionist. Voted present -- classic LaME move.
Obama responds -- "It's not true." Stammers. Voted against some law that was already on the books.
Obama supports ban on late-term abortions as long as there is an exception for the mother's life. That's why he voted Present!
HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE VOTED PRESENT! WOW. Great Political Geek Theater.
Work against unintended pregnancy, options for adoption ... for the first time in Democratic platform? "No one is pro-abortion." WOW. BULLS###. That's pure, unadulterated, 100%, grade-A bulls###.
10:05pm:
U.S. Chamber of Commerce calls McCain's Insurance plan EVIL. Another Obama Zinger, "Even for you, John."
9:59pm:
McCain -- supports physical fitness for kids and employees. Maybe Arnold can go back to being the Health Czar.
Joe the Plumber is back! I wish Joe the Scanner was being referred to.
Gary Allen -- very funny twitter comments! LOL
Obama -- "Zero."
McCain -- "Zero?"
Obama brushes off McCain like a piece of dandruff of his shoulder and talks directly to Joe the Plumber again.
I no longer understand what he's talking about while typing ... which imitates the attention rate of the average American.
Just heard something about a 50% credit. 50% of what? Is it more than $5,000?
Millions of people lose employer-based coverage because of EVIL JOHN MCCAIN.
Average policy = $12,000.
Obama is ripping McCain up like a piece of JP Deskjet Off-white 90 weight paper.
McCain -- "Joe -- congratulations! You're rich!" Rips Obama for wanting to pull a Robin Hood and spread his "wealth" around like butter scraped on bread.
McCain adopts the 95% number!
Gary Allen -- he didn't even talk to that voter -- Obama did!
Pulled away from debate temporarily.
9:56pm:
Expand healthcare AND lower costs? Sorry, Obama -- any person who works for a living KNOWS you can't do both.
Obama sounds like a Tashman executive, demanding low error rates AND high productivity.
Cut premium by $2,500 per year -- HOW?!?
Prices will go down b/c of the larger pool of people. Sorry -- it's pie in the sky. If THAT was true, then insurance companies would GLADLY insure homes in Florida against flood and wind damage. INSTEAD, they run for the hills and pull out of the state, leaving citizens with Citizens, the state-run insurance company.
9:55pm: Hugo Chavez = EVIL
That should score well in Hialeah for McCain.
Restrict trade, raise taxes. Last President who tried that was Hoover -- OBVIOUSLY, McCain is a reader of the DailySkew blog comments!
9:46pm: Scheffer referencing Nixon and importing oil. Asks for specific number to reduce oil imports.
McCain -- eliminate Middle Eastern and Venezuelan oil. Rips Obama for wanting to renegotiate NAFTA due to Canadian reaction (good political geek point, but does the common man care).
McCain believes in Nuclear and Clean Coal tech for the heartland -- "Easily" eliminate dependence.
Obama -- "In ten years," can "Reduce" dependence. "Realistic timeframe."
"Nothing's more important" ... everything is a final-double-sized-issue CRISIS with this guy.
Rips oil companies for not drilling in lands with no oil ... yet again. Boring.
More crap about how EVIL we are for using 25% of the world's oil.
References Henry Ford.
Obama talks about NAFTA. Believes in free trade. Rips NAFTA. Good luck negotiating that with Canada and Mexico, Mr. Sim City.
"That's all good." Need free trade with South Korea.
McCain -- pay attention to Obama's words. "Look at." Score it. Two points. Hit that doublespeak!
Rips Clinton for some free trade. That reminds me, NAFTA was signed by Clinton!
Obama opposed Columbia Free Trade ... and, therefore, opposes stopping the flow of drugs. I love the leaps of logic. Rips Obama for not visiting Columbia.
Obama -- "Actually, I understand it pretty well." Damn, he's adroit at rebounding. Wants unions in Columbia. Supports Peruvian Free Trade ... I think people are going, "What? Who?" right about now. I've never heard of either of these trade agreements.
Bounces back to Automakers -- I guess this free trade stuff is not his strong suit.
Obama announces himself as the new CEO of GM; they WILL ... make hybrid cars with wind turbines and solar panels to be the driver of the economey ... or something like that.
9:44pm: Obama punts on the direct question from Scheffer. Applauds her special needs advocacy. Obama attempts to steal special needs advocacy -- says McCain's freeze will kill autistic babies (something like that).
McCain -- Biden had cockamamy (spellcheck that) idea about dividing up Iraq. Interesting -- I didn't know Biden agreed with Michael Savage. Strange bedfellows.
Brings up raising taxes by Obama again, a tried and true strategy.
9:42pm: McCain tells us that Palin is a reformer. Goes down the talking points, telling the story of Palin.
Brings up special needs families.
I wonder who is embarrassed more -- Republicans or Democrats.
Palin's hubby is tough guy